Here is your question:
The authors of "laid-Back Labor" say that economists do not agree about the definition of leisure. After reading this article, how would you define work and leisure? Use your own examples to support your opinion.
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In my opinion, I think there is a big grey area between work and leisure activities. In the other word, there is no clear line between work and leisure. For example, some people will cook for fun whereas others will cook for work. As an example of this, we have many women in my country cook as a hobby but they work and earn good amounts of money at the same time even if they don't have to. And there're many women who knitting, gardening , making cakes and tutoring in my country just for fun and earn money at the same time besides their real jobs. So, I would define it as leisure activities in this case. However, I definitely define it as work for poor people because they need money to feed their families. In the end, I define it based on the person financial situation
ReplyDeleteHi Hussah,
DeleteI agree with you that many activities are confusing whether it's leisure or not.
You said about some persons enjoying fun as well as getting money through one activity simultaneously. I think it's a sideline; it's separated leisure. I think it's a kind of work.
Hi Hussah.
DeleteIt's really hard to define time and leisure, as you said. some people will ejoy cooking activities. maybe I consider that is leisure because they are happy for what they did and I think they feel comportable and relax while they're cooking.
Hi Hussah,
DeleteI think that you have a fairly sound definition when you state that it depends on "the person['s] financial situation[.]" This would probably reflect the authors' view in article 1 when they say that leisure activities are those that we choose to do, that is, assuming people who do activities for money are not choosing to do them.
I'd like you to find the errors in the following two sentences:
1. We have many women in my country cook as a hobby.
2. There're many women who knitting, gardening, making cakes, and tutoring....
Josh
When I read the article "Laid-Back Labor," I would define that leisure is doing an activities that I want to do and make me comfortable. Like for example, body building and weight lifting. When I was in the Philippines, I spent most of my time in the Gym to do weight lifting. I worked out for about 3 hours every other day, and I really enjoyed it. I feel relax and strong everytime I did that kind of exercise. However, some of my gymmates said that they do weight lifting because they have to do it. They need to be strong as a stunt man. They paid to do stunt but they have to work out as part of their job. So, I considered that leisure is an activities that make you happy without any pressure to do it.
ReplyDeleteHi Anjo,
DeleteI agree with you that weight lifting is usually leisure activity not work. It is interesting that your gymmates do it for work. I wonder why they must do it. I think they work in construction or preparing for competition ; otherwise, they would not do it
Hi Anjo,
DeleteI agree with you that leisure should lead to be happy without any pressure to do it. For stunt men, weight lifting is work, not leisure; they have to do wight lifting for their job. If they fail their health, they can't keep their job. Despite of same activity, it's leisure for someone; it's work for someone else.
Hi Anjo,
DeleteI like how you define leisure: "...an activit[y] that make[s] you happy without any pressure to do it." This is similar to what Hussah said above when she mentioned that you don't do leisure activities for money. I agree that with leisure activities, there should no pressure at all; it's completely up to choice.
On grammar: Here is an example of a fragment in your writing (note that you need an independent clause--subject and verb--after a transition word like "for example").
"like for example, body building and weight lifting."
Solutions:
1. you could connect it to he previous sentence by deleting the period.
2. Delete "like" and make a new sentence start with "for example."
Josh
Leisure is something that people enjoy doing even if that activity has pressure; for example, people that play tennis and they are not professional, but play in competitions, they will want win and it will have pressure. On the other hand, people can enjoy working but at the end is work because it has other characteristics that leisure doesn´t have.
DeleteBefore I read this article, I didn’t care about the different point between the leisure and the work so much because I have not experienced to work except my part-time job. However after reading this, I regarded the different point as whether we are willing to do things or not. I agree with the definition that the work is housework and the leisure is the others. Because the housework such as cleaning and cooking is boring and I’m taken my physical strength. On the other hand, when I’m doing exercise in the outside, I can forget my homework and par-time job so I can be relieved my stress. And also when I enjoy exercising, I’m willing to do it. This is called the leisure which I can do with fun and joy in this article. There is no feeling that I don’t want to do. In the every point of view, I thought the work is what I don’t want to do and the leisure is what I’m willing to do. However, I think the ideal situation is that we can work that we can enjoy and be proud with it.
ReplyDeleteHi Rina,
DeleteI agree with you that the job is really idal when we can enjoy with the job and be proud of the job. If we get an ideal job, it's certain that we become free from the stress of job, and probably we can easily and effectively accomplish our duties.
Hi!, I agree with you that leisure is something that you really want to do. I'm glad that you feel relax when you do physical exercise because sometmes simple activities causes of mental stress if you don't like to do it.
DeleteHi Rina,
DeleteYou make an interesting point that ideally, we will enjoy our work and be proud of it. If this is the case (say I love my job and am proud of what I do), does that mean that it is not work but leisure?
On grammar:
1. Be careful with fragments (incomplete sentence) when using adverb clauses (because, when, even though, etc.) Your 4th sentence (starting with because) needs another idea connected to it to make it a complete sentence.
2. Use "when" instead of "that" in your final sentence. (time when/one in which).
Josh
Hi,
ReplyDeleteWhile I was reading this article, I totally agreed with the definition that the author gave us; however, I changed my mind after I read this. The definition for me of work and leisure is if we have a responsibility for it or not. For example, there is a person who like cooking. She has been good at cooking for 10 years or so, and she sometimes cooks for someone like her husband, parents and friends. On one day, she decided to cook as her job. As for her job, she cooks customer. It doesn't change the fact that she likes cooking; nevertheless, she cannnot fail at cooking to please her customer as much as she can, keep them as her customer and earn money. Therefore, she fells a pressure and responsibility that she does please someone through her job. If someone get stomachache after eating her cook, she has to be responsible for it as a big deal. On the other hand, if she had't choosen cooking as her work, she can do whatever she wants. If somebody get stomachahe because of her cook, she can be forgiven just by apologizing. Therefore, I think even though we do a same thing, if it is for work, we have a responsibility for it, if not, we don't have that.
Hi Yuka,
DeleteI think that woman who loves cooking should be interested in cooking for customers. if she has been cooking for ten years then she must be professional and confident that everybody will love her dishes. I think that her passion about cooking would let her feel pressure and worry at all because she loves it.
Hi! You're right , many people loves cooking and they ejoy it, but it is also part of their job. In my country cooking and other domestic task are full time job. However, they consider cooking as leisure if they do this activities in their own houae.
DeleteHi Yuka,
DeleteYou've given a unique definition of work here. To say that it comes down to responsibility makes sense, but it also brings up an interesting question that I'd like you to respond to. If a person plays on a team (like a soccer team, for example), and they are responsible in a sense for their own actions and how those actions affect their teammates, would this be consider work?
On grammar:
Here is another way to introduce an example like the one you use to support your main idea:
"Take, for example, a person who like[s] cooking."
Also, instead of "on one day" you can just say "one day."
Josh
I agree with you Josh, leisure has scheduale, stress, effort, etc... but people enjoy doing because people do by pleasure. It doesn´t happend with work even when people enjoy doing. I think that people don´t make the same effort with their hobbies than working even when they enjoy doing it.
DeleteFor me Leisure time is all that I do because I want, without any responsability and obligation. For example, if we compaire work even whether I were enjoy a lot with a hobby as learn to play tennis, in both cases I would have a scheduale and someone would say to me what I have to do, but in the case of the hobby I would not have to be productive every day, nobody would tell me off by make a mistake, I could take days off whenever I wanted; as a consecuence I would be more relax, and I would enjoy more with the activity than working. For finish I want to add that if someone that likes cooking would have at lunch and at dinner every day, I am pretty sure that he would finish tired and would not think that cook is a hobby anymore.
ReplyDeleteHi Salva,
DeleteYou have a unique perspective on what constitutes a leisure activity. Not having ANY obligation certainly makes doing the activity entirely your own choice and your own free will. You would feel absolutely no pressure to do it unless you wanted to do it.
On Grammar:
1. When you use "as" in sentence #2, you want to use "like" instead.
-> ...with a hobby LIKE learning to play tennis.
2. Check the sentence "I would be more relax."(hint: check "relax")
First, I agree with the definitions about work and leisure of economists and authors. On the other hand, after reading this article, I thought another new standard define work and leisure. It's related to economic activity. When we did some activity, if it is directly linked with economic activity (money), it's a work. For example, woman is knitting, and enjoying. However, if she has to earn money by knitting, it's a work. Man is mowing pleasantly. However, he has to pay to other people for mowing if he doesn't mow. It's not a leisure. I think there is difference between work and leisure whether activity is accompanied by economic productivity or benefit.
ReplyDeleteHi Kyeong A,
DeleteI agree with your assertion that work is what we get paid to do (this is certainly one type of work). However, I'd like to know if you think that an activity should be considered leisure if there is no direct economic activity AND the person does not enjoy the activity. If there is no pleasure, can it be a leisure activity?
On Grammar:
1. work is a noncount noun: a work--> work
2. pay does not take a particle: pay to other people --> pay other people
3. a leisure--> a leisure activity.
I totally agree with you that there is no one definition for work and leisure. However, I think that people can combine between work and leisure. they can do their preferable hobbies such as cooking, gardening and make business at the same time.
ReplyDeleteI see your point guys; but I think that work is well definited; nevertheless, defined leisure is pretty hard because people are different and for someone leisure could be work and for another person could be leisure.
ReplyDeleteHi Masa,
ReplyDeleteI like your take on how work and leisure should be defined and agree that it really should be considered on a person to person basis. However, I'd like to know more about what you mean when you say "what I feel is work/leisure." How can these feelings be distinguished? When you are doing a leisure activity, what does it feel like? How does work feel different from this?
Here are three language points to think about:
1. Subject-verb agreement (sentence 2)
2. Spacing--Your sentences do not have spaces between them.
3. I would say "for you to decide" or "up to you" in your last sentence.